San Francisco 49ers wide receivers Ricky Pearsall and Jacob Cowing joined the 49ers “You’ve Got Mail” podcast presented by Delta Dental to discuss closing out the 2024 season in their home state, crossing paths in AZ and rookie year takeaways.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's up, faithful, and welcome to the forty nine Ers
that You've Got Male podcast. I'm Lindsay pilaris your host,
and today I am joined by a wide receiver duo,
Ricky Piersoll and Jacob Cowing. Guys, thank you for spending
the afternoon with us.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Thank you for having us, thank you for having us excited.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
This is the season finale of our podcast, and much
like this podcast, the forty nine Ers season comes to
an end next week against the or this weekend against
the Arizona Cardinals. Both you guys be in Arizona Natives,
ASU product and an Arizona product. How many people are
you guys gonna have at this game?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Gonna start off?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I guess also because I have a whole bunch coming.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
We were just talking about it, but I got fifty
five family members on just my mom's side, which is
kind of crazy. I'd even though I had that many
family members on my mom's side in general. I don't
know if my dad's bring in too many more people,
but yeah, we got a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We got a big group coming, so uh.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
For me, I probably got around fifteen people, a lot
of friends, some family coming in from from Texas also
from California. To you guys, some family come from California,
so it's gonna be a good little turnout.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You guys are both smiling as you're talking about all
your loved ones that are gonna come see you in
an NFL game in your home state. If you could
tell your younger self this time last year how it
was all gonna work out, what would you say?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I don't know. Probably just stay true to yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think that's like the biggest thing I always tell
myself is, you know, be your authentic self.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Any situation I'm always that I end up in, That's
what I tell myself.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So that's probably what I'll say. For me.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I probably say, just don't let the moment get too
big for you. You know, you worked years, years and
years to get to where you want to and at
this point to go out there and continue playing football
the way you've been ever since you were younger.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm sure you guys have rocked up a ton of
really special football memories, but where is this one going
to rank? To be in your home state, playing an
NFL regular season game and having all your family there.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's definitely gonna be up there for me just because
you know, obviously we grew up there. We grew up
watching the Cardinals, and I don't know how many times
I've been in that stadium before, but this is definitely
gonna be my first time playing it because I know
there's there's times like youth football teams, maybe like high
school championship teams that like hosted in there, but I
never made it to that, so this will be my first.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Time playing there.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And then obviously we got a lot of a big
crowd coming, so it's gonna be up there for me
on some of my memories of all time.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So yeah, very similar to what Ricky just said. Never
actually really played in the stadium, only ever seen it.
I've been to a couple of games growing up. I
think it's gonna be definitely top top top two football
memories for me, you know, just growing up in Arizona,
me also growing up a forty nine Ers fan, so
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just being able to play with the Niners and playing
back home in front of my family and friends, it's
gonna be a special moment.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Jacob, you mentioned this to me just yesterday that you
guys I normally met earlier, this year in January. But
your paths did actually cross in Arizona many many years ago.
When did that happen?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, so that was Actually it was funny. His dad
was telling me we were coming out here for Ricky
mini camp that we actually played against each other in
Pop Vulnerable. I didn't even know this, but but yeah,
so we had like a little scrimmage or whatever, and
uh and I don't really remember it the scrimmage really
too much, but I do remember the team he was on,
the Wildcatch, right or something like that. Yeah, And I
remember that. And then I always knew about Ricky when
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he was at ASHU. Always heard his name and I
kind of always followed him just you know, he's from Arizona,
from Arizona, like the way he run routes and stuff
like that's why he was knew who he was, Like, like,
I always knew who he was.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What's the first impression of each other that you had
after knowing about each other for so long then you
meet after your drafted, what'd you guys think?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So, I mean, like he was saying, like I always
knew of him and knew the type of player he
was and how quick he was. But you know, when
I first met I was like, me and him get
along really well. You know this, this is gonna be
somebody that, you know, that I can be friends with
for a long time. So you know, then things went
around and now we're teammates, so it was that much
more cool. And you know, after he got drafted, he
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ended up calling me because he saw that I got
drafted the forty nits as well, and you know, from
there we just been best friends. And ever since we
got here.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So yeah, to add on to that, you know, ever
since I met Ricky very comfortable. I was able to
talk to him about anything and everything, and even outside
of football, we had conversations about just life. And at
that point I kind of knew I could I could
trust Ricky. He's like a brother to me now. And
even like when we was training through exos and all
this stuff, I'm like, you know, like that would be
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pretty cool to be able to, you know, play with
him and stuff like that. And you know, I mean,
all worked out at the end of the day. So
we're here now, and at this point, I think I'm
just ready to go ball out with my boy.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
This is.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
This is a really friendly locker room, but just having
a familiar face that you at least kind of know.
How much did you guys lean on each other throughout
this year.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, Like I said, we were best friends, you know,
definitely through training camp. You know, we talk every day.
You know, we just kind of like had a little
self reflection with each other if it was football, you know,
maybe outside stuff in life. And you know, it was
really good to have like a resource like that. You know,
have somebody that you can relate to, and you know
somebody that's also from you know, the same city that
you're from, so you know, it was it was really nice.
(05:18):
It was It was a blessing for sure to have
somebody like that with me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I think you know, going you hear a lot of
stories going into it, it could be overwhelming for rookie
coming into the NFL first year. So it was definitely helpful,
you know, having him by my side, and you know
him also from Arizona, so we have a lot more
things in common. We could talk about more things, and
I think it was definitely made the transition a lot
easier going from college to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
All right, vastly different starts to your NFL careers. For
the both of you. Ricky, You're drafted in the first round,
go through a personal tragedy during Labor Day weekend, battle
back from that gunshot wound, make your debut in week seven.
How would you put that first portion of your rookie
career into wards.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I don't know if there's really just word is to
describe that situation. But you know, at the end of
the day, I always say, you know, there's light and
all the darkness, and you know, I feel like as
a man, you know, all those all the adversity, you know,
it makes you really informs you to you know, be
the man you are. And I feel like, you know,
that's a situation I'm in and that was a big
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learning experience for me and it only made me stronger.
But you know, luckily I had an organization like this
with a bunch of good people in here that had
my back, a lot of teammates, you know, coaches that
you know that that were in my corner, and you know,
they put a lot of people in my corner to
you know, resources to help me along the way and
get back to where I needed to be. And you know,
shout out to them, you know, they showed major love
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through that, so you know, it was it was definitely
a crazy moment for me in my life and it
wasn't expected. But I'm very thankful for it and I
would not go back to change it. And you know,
I'm just super blessed.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You touched on it earlier. Lots of ups and downs
during a rookie season. Since making your NFL debut Week seven,
what has been the biggest challenge.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
The biggest challenge We'll probably be learning the playbook, to
be honest. You know, it changes weekly. You know coach
Shanahan does a really good job of making it. You know,
something that's a tougher defense is the key on and
you know he's he's got a lot of changing parts
in the offense and that's what makes us us and
you know, a powerful explosive offense. And you know, being
a rookie coming from a college playbook and coming here
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and you know, trying to learn that while learning my
teammates and while.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Trying to establish myself, it was definitely difficult.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But like you said earlier, you know, having a guy
like Jacob where you know we can just bounce off
each other and learn the playbook together, it made it
that much easier. So, you know, I think having a
guy like him, it made it easier for me, easier
for both of us honestly to learn it, and made
that transition that much easier.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So I think that was it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Fast forward to week seventeen, you put up a career
high and receiving yards a touchdown. You just did everything
that the forty nine ers knew you were capable of.
Now that you are getting close to the end of
the regular season, what type of confidence does that give
you heading into the offseason.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, for sure, I think it makes it easier, you know,
when the ball's coming your way to you know, develop
that confidence. But I think, you know, part of being
a successful receiver is always have that confidence no matter
you know, if there's highs or lows, you know, just
continuing to have that self belief. And I think I
do a pretty good job of that. But like you said,
you know, having a game like that, it can only
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boost it and makes it easier.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So Jacob, for you, you go in the fourth round,
you suffer that hamstring injury early in camp, and then
you are taking over at punt returner. What type of
pressure did you face being a rookie that needed to contribute.
Very early on in the year.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I wouldn't really say pressure. I would say really my
last year of college, I really like key it in
on punt returning and fielding punts and getting confident and
comfortable with it. So when I got here and they
put me on on punt return I just kind of
translated what I learned from my last year at college
and just kind of have that same confidence, same comfortable
feeling that I've had, so at that point, I was
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just not sure to get too far outside the box.
Is trying to continue to be me and continue to
play the game that I know how to play and
just try to make something happen.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I think being a punt returner is an underappreciated job
a lot of times. What was your biggest learning lesson
throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
On Pummer Train, The biggest lesson is the lanes close
extremely fast, so when you see something you got hit
extremely fast, don't wait, don't hesitate, And you know, at
this point, I mean everyone knows how to cover the
field pretty well, and that's something I'm still trying to
get better on and how to read the field and
trying to make something explosive happen.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
How would you contrast the speed of that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, there's a different speed change for sure, coming to
college to the NFL, dudes are a lot faster. I
would definitely say that. Other than that, dudes technique, they're different.
Everyone holding on their on their craft and you just
got to try and within yourself trying to better your
craft so you cannot work.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Then both of you are part of a wide receiver
room that's got a lot of established veterans, all pro
is pro bowlers. Who did you enjoy learning from the most?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, I'll go first, right off the bat, I'll say
between it was both Deebo and Brenda Nayuk when they
was going in training camp. Just learning from those guys,
how they approached the game, how they approached you know,
even recovery, film study. I watched everything and how they
carry themselves and how I can you know, implement that
(10:27):
in my in my career and take off from there.
So definitely Deebo and Brendan Nayut when I first got here.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, for sure, I would say the same.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think honestly I took a different things from a
lot of the different guys in there. Obviously Brandon, I
took a lot of like Ride running from him. Same
with Debo, and you know how explosive Debo is with
the ball in his hands, trying to take some things
like that away from him. And then guys like Chris Conley,
you know the way that he works and goes out
there every day and prepares, and you know the craftiness
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of like Trent. So there was like a lot of
different things I took from a lot of different.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Types of players.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
But I think that's something that makes you a better receivers.
You know what you can take from different guys. You know,
I take things from Jacob's game. You know that I
put into my game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I think, you know, there's a lot of different
things you could take away.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Did you guys have a welcome to the NFL moment
thus far?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I would say Buffalo game, the Blizzard game. Never playing
the Snow game like that ever ever in my life.
I'm from Arizona. We're both from Arizona, so we don't
see much snow.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I slip right about, but yeah, that was definitely.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I don't think people from the West Coast are supposed
to play in those conditions, but every now and then
it pops up on the schedule, all right. When it
comes to immersing yourself in Bay Area culture, Ricky, I
really enjoyed the smeeze you hit in the end Zone
the other day. One of the memorable moments from your
rookie year. You asked people on Twitter to tell you
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about Bay Area culture. Yeah. What was the biggest takeaway
from the fifteen hundred responses you got on that tweet? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
At first I was trying to read all of them,
and then they got too many. I was like, okay, Yeah,
the fans here, you know, they're crazy. So I don't know,
probably like the dance moves I've been I'm still trying
to learn some of the dance.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Moves, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Obviously the smeeth you know, I've been trying to hit
that since like twenty nineteen. Yeah, yeah, so I really
still work out it, still patching it up, but you know,
all the food spots probably, but you know, lately I
just been stay in my butt home.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
All right. So we learned that we don't say nine nation, we.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Say oh yeah, yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
What do we say? What do we say?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
First off, we got to say faithful, you know, That's
how we address them, and then we say, uh, Niner.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What is it nine Nation? Because you know we don't
it's not nine Nation.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
People are gonna grill you, guys for sure. This is
your moment to shine, Jacob.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Is it Niner game?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh yeah, that doesn't work. That doesn't work game. That's
what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And Niner empires, guys, nine empire.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
We still learn it. We still were still Ricky.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Be nice in the comments, guys. All right, so Jacob,
what are your impressions of the bay. Obviously already a
West Coast guy, but it's a little different in Door Cal.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah. Absolutely. I would say the food was my biggest takeaway.
A lot of hole in the walls, good good food.
And then also like like the music culture around here too.
A lot of big name artists are around here and
from here, and I would say the music culture that
I'm really trying to get into, you know, also like
you know, trying to learn the dance moves as well too.
(13:35):
Like Ricky said, I'd be in my house trying to
learn some stuff, still trying to polish some things up.
So when I get that first touchdown, I'm gonna go crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You guys should post the outtakes like the practice versus
when you actually hit it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, you're right, my practice would be pretty good. I got.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
One last thing I wanted to touch on before we
get to our very fun fan questions. Jacob, you mentioned
and off the field hobby talent that you like to explore.
You restore cars. How did you get into that?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, I actually first got into it COVID. You know,
we had a whole bunch of time on our hands,
and at the same time, I had an old, beat
up truck that always broke down on me, and I
didn't have a car, So you know, I just took
that time, all that free time on my hands and
look some stuff up on YouTube, look some stuff up
on Google. Was able to fix my truck. I fell
in love with it after that, and any kind of
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car that I have now, I try to make it
go faster, look better, try to do some things on
you know, the Jacob touch on it and that's just
now my hobby.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now, were you impressed with how much you're able to
learn from YouTube videos?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
One hundred? I was actually blown away by like very small,
like little detailed things that I needed to understand on
how to fix some things. It was on YouTube. So
just a little search.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Away, anyone can learn anything, all right, Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
For sure, I definitely learned more on YouTube i ever
did in school.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm not YouTube's gonna love that, okay. So we also
let our YouTube community know that you guys are gonna
be on the podcast. They sent in a ton of questions.
I'm gonna fire them off. Michael from Redwood City. We
know rookies have special assignments. So what rookie duties did
each of you have to do this year? The ones
you can.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Share, Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
So they're always on us about getting snacks for the room,
and they say we were slacking.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So what did you guys bring in?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, we definitely brought them some snacks. There's some snacks
in there right now too.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It could be anything, honestly, like the most junk food
you could think of.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Just get a bunch of that. You know, you got
to go to like whatever your nearest grocery or Walmart
or something. You go down the high and just grab
everything for them. But the most recent one was the
Christmas tree.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yep, we had to get a Christmas tree. I'll say,
also to wingstop for the plane.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I have seen you both with wing stops.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Got about three four bags in our hands for these
guys trying to feed them on the plane. They sometimes
ask us to bring in the helmets for them too,
sometimes the buckets. Yeah, I'll say pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, that's all that bad unstoppable wingstop flavor. Do we
have one?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
The hot honey rubs fire.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
That can't go wrong with lemon pepper either, That's a classic.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This one is for Jacob from Susie from Miami. As
a young dad, what's your best piece of advice?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Best advice, I would say just trying to be patient
as much as you can, and also to just be present,
be present in the moment. Just don't take those times
for granted because you never get those times back.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This one is from Tina and this is for the
both of you. What is your guilty pleasure? Netflix? Binge?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Like shows like that?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Like everybody, everybody tries to put me on some shows,
but I just I might be one of those kids.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I might be one of those kids.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I just can't sit there and watch it for that
my attention spamish shortening the TikTok videos.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Bro Okay, so who do you follow on TikTok or
what is one of the best like social media follows.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I love you want to see it's pretty funny though.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I built this fyp brick.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Ben Shaw, I'll say, uh, rhythm and flow. I don't
know why I've been into that lately. Rhythm and flow.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay, yeah, that one all right? Any other one stuff?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, I did just watch the new Squid game one,
so I did just watch.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
That is not for the faint of heart.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a weird one to just watch
out of the blue, but I did.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I mean, it's like the most highly rated Netflix show.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's probably the only reason.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, my Carla from Broomfield at Colorado. How long did
it take you to learn the smize, Ricky? And do
you think you've perfected it?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think I'm pretty good at it. I don't know
if I perfected it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know, next time I'll do the smoeze like more
into the camera because I think they got the back
end of it, because you know, they had to review
the touchdown. So at that point I was already on
the sideline, but I had to make sure I get
it in, you know, I didn't want to run back
on the field.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And do it.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
That would look crazy. But next time I do it,
you know, you got to give me some pointers.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Also, you gotta get I think there are a lot
of people in front of you. Yeah, exactly, all right,
And Jacob Boy, is your future touchdown celebration that you're
planning if you want to reveal.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
It, Yeah, I'm going to have to keep that one.
I'm going to keep that one. Wait and see.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well, thank you so much for spending the afternoon with
this guys and Faithful. Thank you for sending in those
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What's up, faithful, and welcome to the forty nine Ers
that You've Got Male podcast. I'm Lindsay pilaris your host,
and today I am joined by a wide receiver duo,
Ricky Piersoll and Jacob Cowing. Guys, thank you for spending
the afternoon with us.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Thank you for having us, thank you for having us excited.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
This is the season finale of our podcast, and much
like this podcast, the forty nine Ers season comes to
an end next week against the or this weekend against
the Arizona Cardinals. Both you guys be in Arizona Natives,
ASU product and an Arizona product. How many people are
you guys gonna have at this game?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Gonna start off?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I guess also because I have a whole bunch coming.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
We were just talking about it, but I got fifty
five family members on just my mom's side, which is
kind of crazy. I'd even though I had that many
family members on my mom's side in general. I don't
know if my dad's bring in too many more people,
but yeah, we got a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We got a big group coming, so uh.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
For me, I probably got around fifteen people, a lot
of friends, some family coming in from from Texas also
from California. To you guys, some family come from California,
so it's gonna be a good little turnout.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You guys are both smiling as you're talking about all
your loved ones that are gonna come see you in
an NFL game in your home state. If you could
tell your younger self this time last year how it
was all gonna work out, what would you say?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I don't know. Probably just stay true to yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think that's like the biggest thing I always tell
myself is, you know, be your authentic self.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Any situation I'm always that I end up in, That's
what I tell myself.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So that's probably what I'll say. For me.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I probably say, just don't let the moment get too
big for you. You know, you worked years, years and
years to get to where you want to and at
this point to go out there and continue playing football
the way you've been ever since you were younger.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm sure you guys have rocked up a ton of
really special football memories, but where is this one going
to rank? To be in your home state, playing an
NFL regular season game and having all your family there.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's definitely gonna be up there for me just because
you know, obviously we grew up there. We grew up
watching the Cardinals, and I don't know how many times
I've been in that stadium before, but this is definitely
gonna be my first time playing it because I know
there's there's times like youth football teams, maybe like high
school championship teams that like hosted in there, but I
never made it to that, so this will be my first.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Time playing there.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And then obviously we got a lot of a big
crowd coming, so it's gonna be up there for me
on some of my memories of all time.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So yeah, very similar to what Ricky just said. Never
actually really played in the stadium, only ever seen it.
I've been to a couple of games growing up. I
think it's gonna be definitely top top top two football
memories for me, you know, just growing up in Arizona,
me also growing up a forty nine Ers fan, so
(02:50):
just being able to play with the Niners and playing
back home in front of my family and friends, it's
gonna be a special moment.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Jacob, you mentioned this to me just yesterday that you
guys I normally met earlier, this year in January. But
your paths did actually cross in Arizona many many years ago.
When did that happen?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, so that was Actually it was funny. His dad
was telling me we were coming out here for Ricky
mini camp that we actually played against each other in
Pop Vulnerable. I didn't even know this, but but yeah,
so we had like a little scrimmage or whatever, and
uh and I don't really remember it the scrimmage really
too much, but I do remember the team he was on,
the Wildcatch, right or something like that. Yeah, And I
remember that. And then I always knew about Ricky when
(03:31):
he was at ASHU. Always heard his name and I
kind of always followed him just you know, he's from Arizona,
from Arizona, like the way he run routes and stuff
like that's why he was knew who he was, Like, like,
I always knew who he was.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What's the first impression of each other that you had
after knowing about each other for so long then you
meet after your drafted, what'd you guys think?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So, I mean, like he was saying, like I always
knew of him and knew the type of player he
was and how quick he was. But you know, when
I first met I was like, me and him get
along really well. You know this, this is gonna be
somebody that, you know, that I can be friends with
for a long time. So you know, then things went
around and now we're teammates, so it was that much
more cool. And you know, after he got drafted, he
(04:12):
ended up calling me because he saw that I got
drafted the forty nits as well, and you know, from
there we just been best friends. And ever since we
got here.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So yeah, to add on to that, you know, ever
since I met Ricky very comfortable. I was able to
talk to him about anything and everything, and even outside
of football, we had conversations about just life. And at
that point I kind of knew I could I could
trust Ricky. He's like a brother to me now. And
even like when we was training through exos and all
this stuff, I'm like, you know, like that would be
(04:38):
pretty cool to be able to, you know, play with
him and stuff like that. And you know, I mean,
all worked out at the end of the day. So
we're here now, and at this point, I think I'm
just ready to go ball out with my boy.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
This is.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
This is a really friendly locker room, but just having
a familiar face that you at least kind of know.
How much did you guys lean on each other throughout
this year.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, Like I said, we were best friends, you know,
definitely through training camp. You know, we talk every day.
You know, we just kind of like had a little
self reflection with each other if it was football, you know,
maybe outside stuff in life. And you know, it was
really good to have like a resource like that. You know,
have somebody that you can relate to, and you know
somebody that's also from you know, the same city that
you're from, so you know, it was it was really nice.
(05:18):
It was It was a blessing for sure to have
somebody like that with me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I think you know, going you hear a lot of
stories going into it, it could be overwhelming for rookie
coming into the NFL first year. So it was definitely helpful,
you know, having him by my side, and you know
him also from Arizona, so we have a lot more
things in common. We could talk about more things, and
I think it was definitely made the transition a lot
easier going from college to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
All right, vastly different starts to your NFL careers. For
the both of you. Ricky, You're drafted in the first round,
go through a personal tragedy during Labor Day weekend, battle
back from that gunshot wound, make your debut in week seven.
How would you put that first portion of your rookie
career into wards.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I don't know if there's really just word is to
describe that situation. But you know, at the end of
the day, I always say, you know, there's light and
all the darkness, and you know, I feel like as
a man, you know, all those all the adversity, you know,
it makes you really informs you to you know, be
the man you are. And I feel like, you know,
that's a situation I'm in and that was a big
(06:18):
learning experience for me and it only made me stronger.
But you know, luckily I had an organization like this
with a bunch of good people in here that had
my back, a lot of teammates, you know, coaches that
you know that that were in my corner, and you know,
they put a lot of people in my corner to
you know, resources to help me along the way and
get back to where I needed to be. And you know,
shout out to them, you know, they showed major love
(06:39):
through that, so you know, it was it was definitely
a crazy moment for me in my life and it
wasn't expected. But I'm very thankful for it and I
would not go back to change it. And you know,
I'm just super blessed.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You touched on it earlier. Lots of ups and downs
during a rookie season. Since making your NFL debut Week seven,
what has been the biggest challenge.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
The biggest challenge We'll probably be learning the playbook, to
be honest. You know, it changes weekly. You know coach
Shanahan does a really good job of making it. You know,
something that's a tougher defense is the key on and
you know he's he's got a lot of changing parts
in the offense and that's what makes us us and
you know, a powerful explosive offense. And you know, being
a rookie coming from a college playbook and coming here
(07:20):
and you know, trying to learn that while learning my
teammates and while.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Trying to establish myself, it was definitely difficult.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But like you said earlier, you know, having a guy
like Jacob where you know we can just bounce off
each other and learn the playbook together, it made it
that much easier. So, you know, I think having a
guy like him, it made it easier for me, easier
for both of us honestly to learn it, and made
that transition that much easier.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So I think that was it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Fast forward to week seventeen, you put up a career
high and receiving yards a touchdown. You just did everything
that the forty nine ers knew you were capable of.
Now that you are getting close to the end of
the regular season, what type of confidence does that give
you heading into the offseason.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, for sure, I think it makes it easier, you know,
when the ball's coming your way to you know, develop
that confidence. But I think, you know, part of being
a successful receiver is always have that confidence no matter
you know, if there's highs or lows, you know, just
continuing to have that self belief. And I think I
do a pretty good job of that. But like you said,
you know, having a game like that, it can only
(08:20):
boost it and makes it easier.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So Jacob, for you, you go in the fourth round,
you suffer that hamstring injury early in camp, and then
you are taking over at punt returner. What type of
pressure did you face being a rookie that needed to contribute.
Very early on in the year.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I wouldn't really say pressure. I would say really my
last year of college, I really like key it in
on punt returning and fielding punts and getting confident and
comfortable with it. So when I got here and they
put me on on punt return I just kind of
translated what I learned from my last year at college
and just kind of have that same confidence, same comfortable
feeling that I've had, so at that point, I was
(08:59):
just not sure to get too far outside the box.
Is trying to continue to be me and continue to
play the game that I know how to play and
just try to make something happen.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I think being a punt returner is an underappreciated job
a lot of times. What was your biggest learning lesson
throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
On Pummer Train, The biggest lesson is the lanes close
extremely fast, so when you see something you got hit
extremely fast, don't wait, don't hesitate, And you know, at
this point, I mean everyone knows how to cover the
field pretty well, and that's something I'm still trying to
get better on and how to read the field and
trying to make something explosive happen.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
How would you contrast the speed of that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, there's a different speed change for sure, coming to
college to the NFL, dudes are a lot faster. I
would definitely say that. Other than that, dudes technique, they're different.
Everyone holding on their on their craft and you just
got to try and within yourself trying to better your
craft so you cannot work.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Then both of you are part of a wide receiver
room that's got a lot of established veterans, all pro
is pro bowlers. Who did you enjoy learning from the most?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, I'll go first, right off the bat, I'll say
between it was both Deebo and Brenda Nayuk when they
was going in training camp. Just learning from those guys,
how they approached the game, how they approached you know,
even recovery, film study. I watched everything and how they
carry themselves and how I can you know, implement that
(10:27):
in my in my career and take off from there.
So definitely Deebo and Brendan Nayut when I first got here.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, for sure, I would say the same.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think honestly I took a different things from a
lot of the different guys in there. Obviously Brandon, I
took a lot of like Ride running from him. Same
with Debo, and you know how explosive Debo is with
the ball in his hands, trying to take some things
like that away from him. And then guys like Chris Conley,
you know the way that he works and goes out
there every day and prepares, and you know the craftiness
(11:00):
of like Trent. So there was like a lot of
different things I took from a lot of different.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Types of players.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
But I think that's something that makes you a better receivers.
You know what you can take from different guys. You know,
I take things from Jacob's game. You know that I
put into my game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I think, you know, there's a lot of different
things you could take away.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Did you guys have a welcome to the NFL moment
thus far?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I would say Buffalo game, the Blizzard game. Never playing
the Snow game like that ever ever in my life.
I'm from Arizona. We're both from Arizona, so we don't
see much snow.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I slip right about, but yeah, that was definitely.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I don't think people from the West Coast are supposed
to play in those conditions, but every now and then
it pops up on the schedule, all right. When it
comes to immersing yourself in Bay Area culture, Ricky, I
really enjoyed the smeeze you hit in the end Zone
the other day. One of the memorable moments from your
rookie year. You asked people on Twitter to tell you
(11:54):
about Bay Area culture. Yeah. What was the biggest takeaway
from the fifteen hundred responses you got on that tweet? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
At first I was trying to read all of them,
and then they got too many. I was like, okay, Yeah,
the fans here, you know, they're crazy. So I don't know,
probably like the dance moves I've been I'm still trying
to learn some of the dance.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Moves, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Obviously the smeeth you know, I've been trying to hit
that since like twenty nineteen. Yeah, yeah, so I really
still work out it, still patching it up, but you know,
all the food spots probably, but you know, lately I
just been stay in my butt home.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
All right. So we learned that we don't say nine nation, we.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Say oh yeah, yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
What do we say? What do we say?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
First off, we got to say faithful, you know, That's
how we address them, and then we say, uh, Niner.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What is it nine Nation? Because you know we don't
it's not nine Nation.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
People are gonna grill you, guys for sure. This is
your moment to shine, Jacob.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Is it Niner game?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh yeah, that doesn't work. That doesn't work game. That's
what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And Niner empires, guys, nine empire.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
We still learn it. We still were still Ricky.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Be nice in the comments, guys. All right, so Jacob,
what are your impressions of the bay. Obviously already a
West Coast guy, but it's a little different in Door Cal.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah. Absolutely. I would say the food was my biggest takeaway.
A lot of hole in the walls, good good food.
And then also like like the music culture around here too.
A lot of big name artists are around here and
from here, and I would say the music culture that
I'm really trying to get into, you know, also like
you know, trying to learn the dance moves as well too.
(13:35):
Like Ricky said, I'd be in my house trying to
learn some stuff, still trying to polish some things up.
So when I get that first touchdown, I'm gonna go crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You guys should post the outtakes like the practice versus
when you actually hit it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, you're right, my practice would be pretty good. I got.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
One last thing I wanted to touch on before we
get to our very fun fan questions. Jacob, you mentioned
and off the field hobby talent that you like to explore.
You restore cars. How did you get into that?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, I actually first got into it COVID. You know,
we had a whole bunch of time on our hands,
and at the same time, I had an old, beat
up truck that always broke down on me, and I
didn't have a car, So you know, I just took
that time, all that free time on my hands and
look some stuff up on YouTube, look some stuff up
on Google. Was able to fix my truck. I fell
in love with it after that, and any kind of
(14:25):
car that I have now, I try to make it
go faster, look better, try to do some things on
you know, the Jacob touch on it and that's just
now my hobby.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now, were you impressed with how much you're able to
learn from YouTube videos?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
One hundred? I was actually blown away by like very small,
like little detailed things that I needed to understand on
how to fix some things. It was on YouTube. So
just a little search.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Away, anyone can learn anything, all right, Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
For sure, I definitely learned more on YouTube i ever
did in school.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm not YouTube's gonna love that, okay. So we also
let our YouTube community know that you guys are gonna
be on the podcast. They sent in a ton of questions.
I'm gonna fire them off. Michael from Redwood City. We
know rookies have special assignments. So what rookie duties did
each of you have to do this year? The ones
you can.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Share, Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
So they're always on us about getting snacks for the room,
and they say we were slacking.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So what did you guys bring in?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, we definitely brought them some snacks. There's some snacks
in there right now too.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It could be anything, honestly, like the most junk food
you could think of.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Just get a bunch of that. You know, you got
to go to like whatever your nearest grocery or Walmart
or something. You go down the high and just grab
everything for them. But the most recent one was the
Christmas tree.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yep, we had to get a Christmas tree. I'll say,
also to wingstop for the plane.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I have seen you both with wing stops.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Got about three four bags in our hands for these
guys trying to feed them on the plane. They sometimes
ask us to bring in the helmets for them too,
sometimes the buckets. Yeah, I'll say pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, that's all that bad unstoppable wingstop flavor. Do we
have one?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
The hot honey rubs fire.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
That can't go wrong with lemon pepper either, That's a classic.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This one is for Jacob from Susie from Miami. As
a young dad, what's your best piece of advice?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Best advice, I would say just trying to be patient
as much as you can, and also to just be present,
be present in the moment. Just don't take those times
for granted because you never get those times back.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This one is from Tina and this is for the
both of you. What is your guilty pleasure? Netflix? Binge?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Like shows like that?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Like everybody, everybody tries to put me on some shows,
but I just I might be one of those kids.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I might be one of those kids.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I just can't sit there and watch it for that
my attention spamish shortening the TikTok videos.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Bro Okay, so who do you follow on TikTok or
what is one of the best like social media follows.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I love you want to see it's pretty funny though.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I built this fyp brick.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Ben Shaw, I'll say, uh, rhythm and flow. I don't
know why I've been into that lately. Rhythm and flow.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay, yeah, that one all right? Any other one stuff?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, I did just watch the new Squid game one,
so I did just watch.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
That is not for the faint of heart.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a weird one to just watch
out of the blue, but I did.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I mean, it's like the most highly rated Netflix show.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's probably the only reason.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, my Carla from Broomfield at Colorado. How long did
it take you to learn the smize, Ricky? And do
you think you've perfected it?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think I'm pretty good at it. I don't know
if I perfected it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know, next time I'll do the smoeze like more
into the camera because I think they got the back
end of it, because you know, they had to review
the touchdown. So at that point I was already on
the sideline, but I had to make sure I get
it in, you know, I didn't want to run back
on the field.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And do it.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
That would look crazy. But next time I do it,
you know, you got to give me some pointers.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Also, you gotta get I think there are a lot
of people in front of you. Yeah, exactly, all right,
And Jacob Boy, is your future touchdown celebration that you're
planning if you want to reveal.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
It, Yeah, I'm going to have to keep that one.
I'm going to keep that one. Wait and see.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well, thank you so much for spending the afternoon with
this guys and Faithful. Thank you for sending in those
questions for our guests. To be the first to listen
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